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Ridikzappa 5:47 Sun Aug 6
Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Have we been brainwashed by Jeremy Corbyn?

DOES anyone remember Jeremy Corbyn in January? Bumbling and dishevelled, unable to answer the simplest questions. Fast-forward to May and we saw a very different person. He was sharp-suited, even slick, emerging unscathed from the questioning of the formidable Andrew Neil.

With this change in style and speech Mr Corbyn has become eminently more electable. So how has a man with links to the IRA and who refers to Hamas and Hezbollah as “friends” undergone such an image shift?

Is there something sinister going on here? There is evidence to suggest that he and his party used psychological techniques to sway the public.

A year ago, Mr Corbyn was marginalised as an extremist by his own Labour MPs. Now, when quizzed on his dubious past he employs linguistic reframing techniques to challenge perception. When asked if he supported the IRA he replies that he “supports a peace process”. When it is pointed out that he played no part in the peace process – the IRA themselves confirm this – he sidesteps again by referring to meetings with them as “dialogue”.

On May 20, Mr Corbyn admitted having help from US Democrat Bernie Sanders’s team. “Experts” were flown in to add persuasive techniques to his campaign. Now, instead of giving his opinion passionately, whether it might hurt him or not, Mr Corbyn speaks in emotive soundbites. His speeches resonate but could be given by any politician. They are empty, psychologically persuasive and packed with sentences constructed to manipulate the masses.

I believe that Mr Corbyn is using something called coercive political methodology, described by American commentator Richard Hofstadter as “Paranoid Style”. According to Hofstadter, it centres around “heated exaggeration, suspiciousness and conspiratorial fantasy”.

Is it fair that American psychologists could have more influence over the outcome of British elections than you or I?

Mr Corbyn has been accused of creating dangerous in-fighting among British society. He has moulded speeches to create an “out-group”: multinational organisations and political “elite”, non-specific terms so that the apparent enemy can be rebranded at any time.

He has added to this by billing himself as the leader of the “common people”, a classic coercive tactic of electioneering, says US psychologist Robert Cialdini.

Mr Corbyn learned to define his opponents before they can define themselves. Professor Cialdini famously did this in Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign. Cialdini told Obama to paint opponent Mitt Romney as a bully. Obama was portrayed as reasonable. The more Romney argued, the more bullying he appeared.

Here, Mr Corbyn seized control, characterising the Tories by psychological manipulation. Theresa May struggled to shake off her own “nasty party” tag, which was repeatedly reinforced by Mr Corbyn.

Even though he speaks in ambiguous soundbites he has come across as genuine because he uses “slight of mouth” and reframing techniques, evident during the Neil interview and something that can only be achieved by hours of rehearsal.

What is most worrying to me is Labour’s social media propaganda machine. Its 2015 election spend was about £200,000. This year the figure was in the millions. Labour is pouring incredible amounts into sophisticated micro-targeting of the electorate.

The strategy revolves around the question: what does this person most need to hear to make them vote for us? Labour sends out social media promises such as free tuition for students, targeting specific groups. It couldn’t deliver but it didn’t matter.

An Oxford University investigation revealed Labour gathered information on “categories of non-sensitive classes of personal information: personal details; family details; lifestyle and social circumstances; goods and services; financial details; education and employment details”. Effectively the public is being spied on.

I am left asking if the days of upfront policies and logical debate are over. Are we simply left with covertly delivered emotive messages?

Pollsters and commentators alike predicted election humiliation for Labour and a landslide for the Tories. Yet Labour went from having 25 per cent of the vote to taking many Conservative seats.

No one has looked at the more likely explanation: Mr Corbyn and his psychological mind manipulators brainwashed Britain.

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Nurse Ratched 5:50 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
" Jeremy makes me happy, Jeremy makes me happy..."

Fo the Communist 6:13 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Anyone here brainwashed by Corbyn? Thought not.
Great thread for followers of the Chicken Licken school of politics though.

ray winstone 6:23 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
More right wing claptrap, the old establishment really don't like him being popular do they?

neilalex 6:35 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Give him a year, possibly less, and see where he's at once the initial hype has dissipated. Much too early to tell regarding his long term potential.

charleyfarley 6:46 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
He did well because of the yoof vote and the fact May showed total disrespect for the British electorate by hiding and producing dull stage managed meetings

Nurse Ratched 6:47 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
*stands up; applauds*

The_Phantom 7:48 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Certainly didnt brainwash me and I never fail to remind him of this every Sunday when I go round his house and wash his car.

ornchurch ammer 8:21 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
The only people that he 'brainwashed' was the young vote with his promises of free education. Based on this the young vote actually voted as they don't normally bother.

The only question that no one bothered to ask our future brains trust was who was going to pay for their education if they didn't find it themselves.

zebthecat 8:39 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Where on earth did this paranoid gibberish come from?

, 8:44 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Corbyn is still and always will be an utter cad. What is amusing is even after all this time some right wingers will not take on board it's not how much Corbyn seems to have improved rather it's all about how badly May/Tories have performed.

DukeofDevo 8:53 Sun Aug 6
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The tidies massively fucked up; manifesto presentation, communication non existent, too arrogant etc you've really to to fuck up to make Corbyn look good don't know about all this American psycho babble but he reminds me of Soviet era double talk, I suppose they all use the same techniques!

You can't fool all of the people all of the time!

He's toast at the next election!

DukeofDevo 8:53 Sun Aug 6
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Tories

GreenStreetPlayer 9:04 Sun Aug 6
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Villain to hero in five seconds, The election just showed how fickle, gullible, weak, easily led a segment of the population were.

GreenStreetPlayer 9:06 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
And thank goodness these people did not turn up to vote in the referendum where older experienced heads were needed.

RM10 9:09 Sun Aug 6
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the Tories continue to fuck the country up and you focus upon corbyn, strange?

geoffpikey 9:23 Sun Aug 6
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zebthecat 8:39 Sun Aug 6

It's from today's SUNDAY EXPRESS. Is someone a bit embarrassed to credit it?

cholo 9:26 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
Ridikzappa

Considering your obsession with Muslims I'd have thought you'd be more concerned about the Tories arming the world's most powerful Islamic absolute monarchy.

Mike Oxsaw 9:34 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
I was always under the impression that in order to be brainwashed, you needed a brain.

I see my grammar school was well worth it, then.

mongo 9:35 Sun Aug 6
Re: Jeremy Corbyn the Brainwasher
JC is the boy

Darby_ 9:39 Sun Aug 6
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There could be a danger of brainwashing if everyone's mind was as feeble as yours, Ridi.

I always said there was something about Corbyn and that people were foolish to write him off. I'd be surprised if he wasn't Prime Minister one day.

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